Ep. 491 – Chris Krebs – The Ax Files with David Axelrod



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David Axelrod, Founder and Director of the University of Chicago Institute of Politics, brings you The Ax Files, a series of revealing interviews with key political figures. Go beyond the soundbites and get to know some of the most interesting actors in politics.

Ep. 491—Chris Krebs

The Ax Files with David Axelrod

Chris Krebs was a champion pole vaulter and spent time as a diving instructor before moving into infrastructure risk management. He eventually became director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, a role that put him in the crosshairs of former President Trump as Chris sought to secure the 2020 election infrastructure. eventually was sacked by the president. Chris joined David to talk about the ever-changing nature of cybersecurity, working in the Trump administration, threats of Russian cyberattacks in the West and the war in Ukraine, and his concerns that false allegations of electoral fraud are multiplying and endangering democracy.

May 26, 2022

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